I left the following message on Robert Cooper’s voice mail: “Hey, Rob. I’ve got good news and bad news. The good new is that most of the fans really enjoyed Doppelganger. The bad news is that most of the fans really enjoyed Doppelganger.” Yep. I woke up this morning, signed in to my blog, and was greeted by a slew of messages informing me that iTunes was delivering Doppelganger (episode 4) to subscribers who had purchased Adrift (episode 1). That makes 3 of our first 4 episodes leaked before air. How could something like this have happened? Well, as some have already surmised, the mix-up no doubt came about as a result of the fact that Doppelganger was the first episode up in the production order (#401). Someone somewhere (and to all those of you pointing the finger at SciFi, this had nothing to do with them), screwed up and all I can do is sigh and shrug. Clearly, the gods have conspired against us (I’m not going to point the finger, but Loki has never been a fan of the show).
Well, last night was the Atlantis season four wrap party. And even though we were told there would be food served, we knew better than to trust in the suspect bounty these events usually offer (lukewarm gyozas and crispy-fried batter sticks). So we kicked things off at the Imperial where Carl tried Peking Duck for the first time. For those of you not in the know, Peking Duck is served in two courses. In the first, the crispy duck skin is served on a steamed pancake with green onions and hoisin sauce. In the second, the actual meat is stir-fried with onions and crispy wontons and served in a lettuce wrap, again with hoisin sauce. Needless to say, Carl was most impressed. “Who knew the skin and fat of an animal could be so delicious!”remarked Marty G.
It was pouring rain but, thankfully, a short walk to Aqua Riva where the party was being held. A nice venue but, quite frankly, way too small for the number of people in attendance. Things were a bit…squishy. Still, it was a lot of fun and it was great to see my co-workers out of their civvies and in their party best, although time and again I did find myself wondering “Who the hell is that? Does he work on Stargate? How does she know my name?” My usually subdued writing partner was the life of the party and even hung around well past 11:00 p.m. (a rarity), displaying a high-spirited liveliness that had Marty G. declaring: “I love Scotchy Paul!”. I cut out a little after midnight, some ten minutes after Chris Judge made his customarily late arrival. “Where’re you going?”he asked, using that accusatory tone he often used on house guests who couldn’t polish off the glass-of-apple-juice-sized highball he’d served them. “I’m going home to nap for a couple of hours, “I lied. “And then I’m coming back so that I can be all refreshed for the dancing.”
Today: recovery, football, A Feast for Crows, and quality time with the dogs.
On the last day of voting for Joe’s Book of the Month Club selection, it’s looking like this:
Niven and Pournelle’s The Legacy of Heorot leads Dietz’s Legion of the Damned 6-3.
And Donaldson’s Lord Foul’s Bane and Mieville’s Perdido Street Station are tied at 7-7.
Today’s pics: The wrap party!
Today’s video: Click on the date and try to make out Gary’s amusing anecdote over the crowd noise.
Today's mailbag: I'm taking the weekend off. Back at it tomorrow.
76 comments:
hey, i think i get first post today. :) so somebody really must be conspiring against y'all (wow, how south of me) i mean seriously four leaked episodes my word!
Hi Joe:
Looks like you all had a great time. And people whom I never would have expected to show up at your event were obviously having a blast. By the way, is Joe Flanigan camera shy at parties or was he not there?
Today's Sun newspaper had an interesting article about the death bed Scammers you have been driving crazy for the last month. Apparently, you are now part of a tidy little membership of people known as Baiters. There are even some websites set up for them. Their goal is to waist the time of the scammers and to have them do ridiculous things for the amusement of the baiters. One baiter got a scammer to carve and mail him a wooden replica of a computer with keyboard. How about a challenge, Joe. Can you get one of the idiots trying to scam you to do something even crazier?
Patricia
Hi Joe
I laughed my ass off (feel free to edit) at Gary's story... only him!!
I'm glad you had a wonderful time at the pary and hope there is many more to go. I'm sorry about the mix up with the iTune releases but hopefully it does drive viewership. I have no idea though.
Enjoy the weekend or whats left of it. What are your plans now that you have time off?? Do you have other projects lined up or are you planning on whisking (yes i know I spelt it wrong!) on a much needed much deserved vacation to a tropical private place??
Glad the book voting is going good but what about that tie?? I'm sad there wasn't more voting!
Have a great one
Yours
Penny
hi, joe,
i glad you had a nice time at the wrap party. :D
i'm totally not happy that THREE episodes have been released before their time. *insert pissed off face* but i'm not taking a peak at any of them so i have something to look forward to.
does this worry you about the leaked eps, ratings wise?
were amanda, david, joe, rachel, and jason at the party too?
sally :D
My vote is for Lord Foul's Bane.
Beautiful pics! You guys clean up good! :)
Bummer about the iTunes mixup. Loki has probably had it out for you guys since he got caught that one time.
Have a wonderful evening!
Dish the dirt on everyone at the wrap party!! hehe!!
i had an idea. has anyone ever been sick, like not deathly ill but just sick on an episode? because that would be kinda funny if they're on a mission or whatever and someone pukes or something. :P (yeah i know lovely mental image.)
If you decide not to answer this question because you're sick of seeing it I'll understand, lol.
In the asteroid scene in Adrift, Sheppard instructs McKay, Bolton and Levine to break off and go around for another pass. Is "Levine", by any chance, named after dear Alex? It's really sweet if it is. Have any other characters been named after cast/crew?
Absolutely awesome pics today Joe, thank you so much. I particularly love the ones of Bambam and Connor Trinneer, and I must say Jewel looks stunning. Hope you had a good time!
If it's any consolation (bearing in mind I'm one of those pesky non-American folks whose viewing habits matter not a jot to SciFi), much as I hate myself for not having more willpower, Doppelganger was INCREDIBLE! Abso-flipping-lutely fantastic.. please, if you get the chance, congratulate Joe F on some incredible work. :)
If anything, I think having some folks see the ep prematurely (and love it!) is only going to increase the anticipation for the actual airing date. And I'll be doing my bit by tuning in live when it broadcasts in the UK.. :)
Having seen a grand total of 2 episodes so far (yes, I have resisted the allure of the unfinished first two eps far more succesfully than I did Doppelganger), I'm feeling like Season 4 is gonna be the best yet! :D
Hi Joe!
That wrap up party looked like fun! ^^ I have a question for you this time ^^ Now that Atlantis fliming is coming to a close...What do you plan to do until you get the pick up for the fifth season?
Also could your next post be dedicated to my sister Amy? She's in the hospital at the moment and my family is really worried.
Thanks
~DanielleS
*facepalm* Oh my goodness. What a mess! My upset with the whole thing is likely the same as yours; what'll the episode leaks do to the ratings numbers??
I'm gonna be all selfish and stamp my foot like a little kid and say, "I want my season 5, darnit!!"
Looks like ya'll had fun at the wrap party...here's hoping you get another one in about a year!
Sooo...if it's a tie by the end of today how will you decide? *hands you a quarter* ;)
Doppelganger was truly a brilliantly done episode, it's a favorite amongst favorites and standing very high amidst them! itunes goof leads to very happy stargate fan girl!
Loki's a right bastard, isn't he? Well, on the other hand, his schemes always seemed to backfire so don't get discouraged yet.
Never have managed to bring myself to eat duck. But I think my reluctance harkens back to the time I was made to eat the ptarmigan my brother shot and it was ridiculously full of buckshot. Some things one just never gets over.
Crossing multiple appendages for good news tomorrow on the ratings front!
Thanks so much for the photos, and it looks like you guys had fun!
I'm looking at the positive as far as the leaked episodes are concerned - they've been that good that it's going to create a lot of positive buzz which will push more people into watching through word of mouth. And lets face it, if someone is going to be taking the time to flounce about the internet trying to find episodes to download they're probably going to be a fairly hardcore fan who is going to watch it on tv, buy the dvds, and make some kind of unholy shrine with the action figures.
With my literal hat no where to be seen my figurative one comes off - the episodes have been nothing short of fantastic.
Doppleganger was indeed a very good episode. So good I'll watch it again live when it airs... :-) All I'll say about it is that I really liked the scene between Keller and Carter. Nice character moment there.
I love the way you guys are shooting the show so much darker this season. It just makes all the colors look so... lush.
Glad you all had fun at the party. Everyone on Stargate deserved it!
It's a shame that the episode was leaked prematurely but take heart that the "Gate" followers want to watch in sequence, as they air, regardless if there were sales screw-ups.
I honestly don't think the leaked episodes should make much difference Joe. Most fans will probably hype things up even more. That's what I'm hoping anyway.
There's something different about watching an episode on tv and downloading it - I've been known to stay up watching episodes of SG1 that I've already seen on DVD just because I like the "experience". So fingers crossed others are like that too.
Chris Judge still looks like a porn star. And is he wearing makeup????
That Gary Jones is one funny guy.
And congrats on the Raiders beating the Dolphins today.
In the four and a half months I've come to this blog, I have not once made a comment. I figure now's as good a time as any.
I can't believe three episodes of the new season have been leaked. I've seen it happen a few times before, but I never expected it to happen to Stargate. Here's hoping iTune's mix-up was the last of it, and that the ratings don't suffer.
I saw Old Man's War at a bookstore today, and picked it up after remembering that you'd recommened it to someone a while back. Even though I'm only one chapter in, I've go to say that as the first non-Star Trek science fiction book I've ever read, I couldn't have asked for a better one. It looks like the first in a trilogy though. Is it possible to read it as a stand alone? I also found some of the books in Terry Pratchet's Discworld series. Can any of them be read as stand alones as well?
That's too bad about the iTunes mess-up, I'm sure it won't affect viewership. I don't think anyone remembers the iTunes "The Tao of Rodney" mess up. Hopefully the powers that be at Stargate Productions won't rain fire and lightning at you and Paul and it will all blow over. I can't wait to see who wins the JM book club picks this time.
I just saw Adrift the other day, and I must say, it was extremely well done. There hasn't been that much of a sense of urgency or eminent destruction since, well, probably the first season finale of SG-1. Will we be seeing special effects that great in almost every episode with the bigger budget?
Great pictures! I enjoyed Doppelganger a lot, even though I wasn't supposed to see it yet! I was pleasantly surprised when I went to play Adrift.
I have a question though. Who all gets invited to wrap parties like these? (other than cast and crew and writers and producers)
Joe, please do fandom a favor. Don't put through any posts which give away spoilers for "Doppelganger." The vast majority of us haven't seen it, won't see it till it airs officially on SciFi, and don't want it spoiled!
Has Michael's agenda altered or mutated at all?
Wow looks like a fun night :D I know David Nykl enjoyed it too!
Anyway another quick question. You've probably no doubt heard that iTunes accidently released SGA 401 but instead of Adrift it was 404 Dopplegangers instead. What's you view/take on this in terms of the whole mess and how you think it'll impact viewing numbers?
An episode as fantastic as Doppelganger can't be watch too many time, so I'll be watching live, anyway.
Aww, no mailbag!
Please, please answer these questions. 1) Is Stargate Continuum set before S4 of Atlantis? 2) How much time is supposed to have elapsed between Unending and Adrift?
Thanks!
Hi Joe
As an Australian who can't download anything but music from iTunes (something to do with Copyright permissions or somesuch thing..)take comfort in that no Australians have been spoilt yet, but then, thats not saying much considering that season 3 hasn't even started airing on TV down here yet!! SG1 season 10 is not even halfway through.. But not to worry - the DVD box set for s3 was released last week (SG1 s10 last month), and I've just finished watching it last night. (yep less than a week to watch it all - you would be right in assuming I have no life.) So bring on season 4 (and 5!), but I'm gonna take a stab in the dark and assume that I'll be waiting at least a year before I get that on dvd, let alone on TV! (shakes fist at channel 7's TV programmers!!)
Will Atlantis ever find the ZPM manufacturing lab this season? Ever? Because you know there has to be one. Possibly offworld somewhere, but most likely right in Atlantis which is my guess.
My son claims to BE Loki. And he doesn't watch either. :(
A third one? No, I mean, this doesn't sound like Sci-Fi could have anything to do with it. Seems more like it would have been on iTunes' shoulders. *shakes head* I think I'll just have to laugh, though, if all the numbers still come out better than ever— Sci-Fi can't possibly deny that Atlantis is still going strong, even with all the leaked episodes.
Thanks for lugging that camera around all last night. ;D Sounds like you had a great time. Though, I was curious... Chris Judge? And was that Kate Hewlett in one of those? Would that mean the wrap party's for everyone including the past season's guest stars? That'd be neat. :)
Don't worry, I haven't seen Doppleganger yet - and I'm very much looking forward to it! And of course, I'll watch everything live. I did enjoy Adrift - but then I'm on of those rabid fans who are building shrines with my aciton figures. :)
The wrap party looks like fun.
Wow, it looks like you had a great time at the wrap party. Nice to see everyone there (Martin, Chris, Jewel, the list goes on!) Completely thought Gary's story was absolutly hysterical! I love getting a laugh out of your blog. Haven't seen Doppleganger yet, don't plan to until it's shown...Though I'll admit to seeing Adrfit early. Dont worry, I watched it live Friday too, and what a difference music and sounds make to the episode! I never realized how much goes into it - though I did kind of miss someone shouting BANG in the backgound.
*Next month, I'll try to get into the books for your bookclub this month - only now I finally got a chance to pick up Hogfather this past weekend...
Hi Joe
By the end of S4 will we know for sure if Sam and Jack are/have been together or not or will the status of their relationship remain ambiguous? And what do the non-fraternization regs say about relationships between military and civilian under their command?
BTW I wasn't that impressed with "Doppelganger" (Did RCC forgot about some of the older fans who might have seen SG-1 S1 "Cold Lazarus"?)
Dear Joe:
You are an awesome man but....*sighs*
Please don't ever wear that jacket again...
PLEASE!!
or that shirt...what's with the pimp look?
-One of a few persons who will dare to tell you this.
Does Martin Wood have special 'dress' shorts to wear on special occasions? Or does he actually possess a pair of long trousers?
I have a couple question:
1.) What type of guns did the Lucien Alliance use?
2.) What guns did the Trust use? They looked similar to Spectre M4's.
When I'm not being a Stargate freak, I'm a gun freak.
No chainmail, eh? Probably a good idea, since you went straight from dinner. You know how hard it is to get hoisin sauce out of chainmail. Whew, what a nightmare.
Just wondering if iTunes' little mishap is going to seriously affect ratings. Is this going to cost you on the live episode premiere? Hoping not.
;) Skip
*Frustraiting wave*
*reads the comments for Doppleganger*
Aaaaaarggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!
STOP TEASING ME!!! YOU'RE DRIVING ME NUTS!!!
You know Mr M, I fear i'm becoming bitter and twisted like anon!
HELP!!
*hugs*
Glad you had a good time at the party.
WAHOUW adrift est un episode super!!!!
je voulais savoir qu'elle episode allait vous tourner cette semaine? Si c'est the last man, es ce que le personnage de weir sera là réellement ou techniquement?
Es ce que la première de SGA à bien marché côté audience?
ha oui, votre chienne va mieux?
Oh Gawd! Party Picture Overload! Gwahhhh! *chokes*
But seriously, picture #8 and #13 are my favorite. I have made #13 into a temporary background on my new computer until I can find something as cool as I had on my old one (WWII B-25 Mitchell Test Firing weapons). #13 will go along well with my motto in life: SMILE!
Hey. There's an idea for next season. Cuz, you know, there HAS TO BE ONE. Jimmy up some alien space/air craft somewhat resembling WWII aircraft with propellers and all. THAT would be AWESOME.
I'm now enjoying Atlantis on my new TV. The sound is blowing me away. Who knew?
OMG Joe, I just noticed your velvet jacket. Living dangerously!
=D
Someone seems to have dropped the ball spectacularly with all of these leaked episodes! Judging by the fantastic reception, hopefully it will actually turn out for the better. Still, I imagine that someone, somewhere, has to take the hit for this?
At times like these we must ask ourselves; what would Baron Destructo do?
You need a weekend off! How much time do you actually spend dealing with our comments and questions each day? Judging by the ever increasing volume of both, I'm guessing that it must be considerable.
Thank you for doing so, by the way. It is greatly appreciated.
Hey Joe,
Looked like a pretty swish shindig! David Nykl was looking very Hugh Hefner in that outifit...Was Martin Wood wearing shorts? XD
Bummer about those leaked episodes...at least most loyal fans would have chosen to hold out til the actual airing.
Hi Joe,I just couldn’t wait another 7 days to see Adrift.
I was weak I watched it on line, but I will watch it again when it comes on TV
Loved the parallels drawn between Keller’s fight for Weirs life and McKay’s fight for Atlantis’s survival.
Well done on using the correct drugs and the correct medical terminology (one slip up).
The analogy between the Weirs blood pressure and the power loss in the city was excellent.
It’s the big SFX and the little innuendoes and laughs that make SGA a winner.
Lovely pictures of the party looks like the perfect end to a hectic schedule.
Have to ask a question now that S4 is in the bag do you continue to think of story lines for S5(you just know it's coming), or can you switch off and settle for reading a good book or two? (Or in your case ten)
Pauline
Thanks for the wrap party pictures!
Should we expect episode #3 to be on a DVD in a cereal box next week? : There does seem to be a problem in how unaired episodes are getting out. The screeners look the ordinary somebody lent it or lost it or it got out, but the iTunes thing seems to a bit incompetent. Will whoever is in charge be double-checking the releases from now on?
Joe, I watched Adrift and am rather confused. Why is Carter faffing around with that stargate terminal thing in the middle of nowhere? Isn't the Ori threat of imminent destruction to pretty much the whole of OUR galaxy important to her anymore? I'm disappointed that she's blown off SG1 and the battle they face in favor of tinkering with technology. That's not the Sam we used to know and love.
Were Amanda and Alan present at the party? Some pics please!
Hey Josepe!
buona mattina!!
Quite tragic about the itunes mistake, but if there is any consolation, They pull the episode off the server and its next to impossible to find it anywhere else (And believe me I have tried!)
Now the hype over the actual live show on sci fi is even higher!
I'll be tunning in
Vi prometto!!!
Can you answer me a question?
1-)when are we going to have someone from Italy or Spain in the Atlantis expedition?
And to everyone who already saw Doppelganger
silenzio per favore!!
oh, oh yes and... come lo dite???...ah yes!
Bite me!
Waiting for the Nielson numbers! Waiting...waiting... Please post them as soon as you can. I've got $10 riding on a 1.6 or higher. Which, you know, is an easy win, in my opinion.
Salut Joseph! =D <3
Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!
Waaaou!!!!!
Youpi!!
Sayer! je suis heureuse pour toute ma soirée! =) Grâce a ces superbe photo de vous!!! ahhhhh vous êtes trop beau!!<3<3Rolalal MAGNIFIQUE!!
Merci aussi pour la video =)
Plus que 16 jours!
Outch si je continu a parler de vous,je pense que mes parent vont me tuer lol XD! Joseph par ci, josephe par la ..ils vont devenir fous lol!!
Vous avez reçu mes cartes??
N'ouvrez que dans 15 jours surtout!
Toujour les mêmes questions...
1)Quand sera t'on l'audiance des épisodes du 28 septembre?
2)Vous aimez le sport?
3)Dans la saison 4, il y'aura beaucoup/un peu ou pas du tout de moment romantique ou fort en émotion entre Teyla et John?
Je vous fait de trés gros bisou!! Je vous aime fort!!! a demain! Bonne journée! <3
.........*.Votre plus grande Fan.
Ps: la bierre c'est pas bon , sa fait grossir lol.
Very nice jacket & shirt Mr. M. (I am being sarcastic here). Really cool teeth on Mr. Binder. Dig the mock posing of you three.
I did watch DG. I liked it. JF is a gem. Should create an entire episode w/ only him in it. We fangirls would dig it a lot.
Congrats on the premier, it was a great episode. I really like the direction you're taking with Weir. I still hope there are opportunities for her to come back to the show semi-regularly. Similar to Richard Dean Anderson.
Great great story, I hope the whole season is just as good as the premier.
I have to echo so many other posters and ask if you have any photos of Martin Wood wearing something other than shorts--that would be worth posting!
…”kodiak bear eats ptarmigan”… hehe. I doubt that headline will ever make the cover of the Anchorage Daily News. :-) Those creatures (and I’m talking about the actual bears here) will eat just about anything.
I’ve never eaten ptarmigan, but I have eaten brown bear back-strip. It was very tasty. *shrugs apologetically at fellow SGA fan*
*sighs* This whole iTunes thing sure is frustrating. I tried on Saturday to download “Adrift”. Got nothing. I tried again today to download “Adrift”. Still nothing. Read about the “Doppelganger” mess-up. *sighs again* I don’t have cable (sorry I can’t help with the ratings Joe), so I’m relying on these iTunes downloads. Hopefully the whole thing will be sorted out soon.
I think you should let the fx guys know they keep screwing up the CG for the gates, they keep making them with only 8 chevrons!
I just wanted to say thank you for taking the time from your busy schedule to blog and post the lovely behind-the-scenes photos and videos. It really is very kind of you to share with Atlantis's fans and it is very much appreciated. *virtual hugs*
Also, Adrift was a fabulous season opener! I can hardly wait for the rest. Looks like you guys did some outstanding work for this season!
May I please post a link to you on my blog?
http://queenserenity.livejournal.com
Again, thank you!
Joe,
you must be smashed after the party. Enjoy the football. Go after the guilty party who leaked the eps., I figure it had to be an inside job. Great pics and amusing video. Hopefully, we'll be at it for a fifth season. You know how to find me (and my blog). Talk to you soon...
Great start with season 4...Adrift was really great...
Doppelganger was awesome too... really great one... if you would get the chance do pass on to Joe F just what an incredible job he did with that episode... such an amazing performance :)
Is everything not as it seems with Teyla's pregnancy?
Wow - just Wow, my goodness could someone please be kind and let Chris know that he looked sooo much better with a crew-cut or no hair at all. Please!! He is a handsome man to say the least but with that hair - OMG, say it ain't so!
Given all the little bad luck incidents I think the guilty party should just admit which one of you broke the mirror.......
Hi Joe,
I would like to know , if Lulu will be play for one atlantis episode ?
afler the pics, she can be an actress :-) !!
That is possible to have a picture with Lulu and Amanda ? we have never saw her together ... that is a Challenge !!
Thank you for you answer!!Please please answer !!
Joe,
Now that the big wrap party has been held, does that mean all episodes have been finished for Season 4?
Will the studio be on hiatus for a while now?
If so, when will everyone be back to start work on Season 5?
Just curious as to how the schedule works.
Thanks,
SMB_BOOKS
My comment didn't get through. How rude! :-p Kidding.
Joe,
Did Paul McGillion and Torri Higginson attend the Season 4 wrap party?
I didn't see them in any of the crowd shots and was just curious if they were able to attend and have a bit of a reunion of sorts with their former castmates.
Thanks,
SMB_BOOKS
hi Joe! If there's a fifth season (I said If), is there any chance having Ben Browder (Ben for Kirk in ST11!) as guest star in few or at least one episode? I have heard that Jonas had been created to be in Atlantis' adventure, any chance to see him soon? Thanks!
So did you perhaps get the chance to watch the Raiders spank Miami?
Amanda Tapping deserves to be in the opening credits before Teyla and Ronon.
Tapping was lead on SG1 for ten years and she belongs in the lead here.
Also Jewel Staite should be in the opening credits too with her picture. She deserves it.
The Teyla storyline for the year already looks like drivel.
I've been counting up the episodes that I thought we had confirmation that Keller was in, and I think I'm coming up with more than eight. I'm not upset about that - I really enjoyed Jewel's performance in Doppelganger - but I had thought that we were told back earlier in the year that she was only contracted for eight episodes. Did that change? Is Keller in more than eight episodes in S4? If not, I guess I need to do a recount. :D
Joe, I'm shocked. no photos of food at the wrap party?? ;)
Hey Joe, you spoil us. On the night you were supposed to be relaxing and enjoying yourself, you still managed to take pics and a video for us. Thank you.
LOVE your jacket. Velvet is such a tactile fabric and lovely to work with & wear.
It is so bad that iTunes have mucked up the release of episodes for download, and I hope it doesnt affect the Season 5 pickup.
Hi Joe,
Love todays video and pictures.
Quick question for you:
A large part of the first episode(s) was the Wraith being able make the expedition team see things that are not really there. And since then, that really hasn't come up in the storyline at all. Why is this? and will you ever tell more about them and their race?
Quite glad for the iTunes mix-up actually. I find myself finally excited about season 4.
Here's a thought, Atlantis might have gotten better ratings if SG-1 hadn't been canceled. It was far and away the best show on TV and a great lead in for Atlantis. As it is now, the only reason I'll be watching it for Amanda Tapping. Tell Sci-Fi they really ruined Friday nights.
"Answer: When I made my prediction, I wasn’t aware West Virginia would be playing your Bulls. As I mentioned in a previous entry, Carl and I had a great time watching SFU upset Auburn a couple of weeks back and they are for real."
My husband is so stoked! The Bulls are ranked 6th now so he is just ecstatic. When we attended USF they didn't even have a football team. The basketball team was good though!
Maybe the football games on Friday night are what kept the SGA ratings lower than they should be. I know a lot of people that watched football instead of SGA. Not me...I am a loyal fan! ;~D
Kimberly
P.S.-David is very naughty in that last pic!LOL
What a story for Garry tell haha It would have been hilarious to have been there
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