Yesterday was a day of events. Production wrapped. We said goodbye (for now?) to friends and colleagues. And Martin Gero’s Young People F**king debuted here as part of The Vancouver International Film Festival. I was among 50 or so Stargate veterans who showed up to support golden boy Marty G., making up only part of the sold-out crowd that packed the Ridge Theater for the 9:30 p.m. screening.
Now I enjoyed the movie the first time I saw it as a rough, unfinished cut without any music. I found it clever, funny, even touching at times. But as I settled into my seat at the Ridge, I briefly wondered how much of my enjoyment may have been colored by my friendship with the co-writer/director. Was I perhaps being less critical of the movie because I (and pretty much everyone else at Stargate) supports Martin and really wants to see him succeed? Probably not. I’ve had no problem criticizing the works of my friends and co-workers in the past. Still, if there was any doubt, it would certainly be put to rest (or raised even more) on this night because Fondy was also in attendance and she’s a pretty tough audience when it comes to movies. As much as she loves the guy, I knew that if Martin didn’t deliver, I’d hear about it. Turns out any inkling of doubt was put to rest very quickly as Fondy was laughing out loud and clearly enjoying the movie along with the rest of the 300+ theater-goers. On the walk home, she admitted that she went in expecting to be entertained given Martin’s penchant for delivering laughs, however the movie even surpassed her expectations. Great to hear. And from the sounds of the audience reactions throughout, I have a feeling this movie is going to entertain many, many others.
Alas, the screening was not without its hiccups. A third of the way through, the movie went out of focus eliciting shouts of “Focus! Focus!!” from the audience. The movie went back into focus but, about a minute later, it went out of focus again. I saw Martin get up from his seat and quickly make his way up the aisle. Obviously, this was more than a simple lens issue. Seconds later, the screen went dark. The audience’s groans and catcalls were interrupted by Martin who stepped up to addressed them from the front of the theater, informing then that he had decided to stop the movie and fix the problem before the upcoming sex scene because that was something that really needed to be seen in focus. And so, as the projectionist worked on it, Martin fell back on his stand-up skills to entertain the delighted audience until the problem was solved.
Eventually, YPF will be making its way to a theater or DVD store near you and, when it does, I’d highly recommend it to anyone looking for a good relationship comedy.
Today’s pics: Our wonderful pre-movie meal at Fuel (chilled tomato soup, organic salad with house made ricotta and fireweed honey, roasted ling cod with smoked pork belly, prime ribeye with béarnaise sauce, pommes frites, Manjari chocolate mousse with peanuts and malted milk ice cream, apple beignet with crème fraiche, and Tahitian vanilla crème brulee).
Today’s video: Click on the date to (probably not) see and hear Martin Gero entertain his audience during an impromptu intermission.

46 comments:
Hi Joe!
Did you get the final ratings for Adrift?
I think I'm going to have to visit Vancover if only to go to Fuel. If those items taste as good as they look... wow.
I forgot to mention last night how much I loved the scene in Lifeline where Teyla is packing up Weir's belongings. I thought it was a nice touch having her be the character to do that. And I really loved Carter's reaction to Sheppard when he told her that he would find Elizabeth. Perfect. I've liked the chemistry between Amanda and Joe since their Get in the Gate promo a few years back. It should be fun to watch these two characters work together.
The food looks good!
Please answer these two questions. 1) How much time is supposed to have elapsed between Unending and Adrift? 2) Is Jacob Carter going to be on Atlantis or in the movies [Continuum, Ark of Truth]?
Thanks!
(this was from your previous blog entry, so i wouldn't be spamming it)
anonymous said: "Fans of various shows for decades have screamed for resolutions for their favorite couples... and when they get them, history has shown most of the shows go downhill into ratings slump and cancellation."
no, actually, it's the other way around i feel. shows will tease the viewers with the 'will they/won't they?' and will stretch it out as long as possible. when the show's ratings start sliding, *that's* when they decide to pull out all the stops and try to bring the popular couple together. but since the show's already sliding downhill, nothing short of new writers might save it.
most shows wait too long to resolve their ship so that when they do, it's kind of... lackluster (ie: troi/riker in 'star trek next gen' and laura/remington from 'remington steele')
but thanks for the interesting read regarding thoughts from your 'OS' forum. :)
sally :D
Yes i have to say i couldn't help myself. Also i have to tell you i absolutely loved, loved Doppelganger. It was darker and more emotional. It is everything Atlantis needs every week. This season though the ratings haven't shown it yet will be the absolute best season. But don't worry i love the show so much i'll make sure to watch both showings of it when it airs on SciFi. And watch every episode of this season. I'm difinitely excited about the Teyla arc seems very very exciting. If SciFi doesn't renew they're absolutely crazy. Stargate is such a legend in television if they're be swarms of fans demanding the show back on air. Anyways enough with the crazy rant. Love where the show is going, have a great break. And if you see Rachel or talk to her tell her good luck with her child. She seems like a amazing person who will be a phenomenal mother. Thanxs.
Hi, Joe
Marty sounded pretty funny in the video. Does he crack people up at work? Yummy, yummy pre-show food there. Mmmm.... Ratings, anyone?
Hey Joe, thanks for the vid. Marty rocks!
I was shopping today and came across a Cookie Monster t-shirt. Well, I just had to have it - even though I don't think I ever saw a complete episode of Sesame Street. You see the effect you have on people? :)
Great job on lifeline. I must say the ending was very intriguing with Weir's final exit. I'm of the belief that no one really dies in scifi so I won't be the least bit surprised if she shows back up. In fact, I'll be downright giddy with anticipation.
From everything I've read so far about the upcoming season we might get the best yet. Looks very promising.
The reason why I look forward to Sam on the show: Rodney calling her a dumb blonde when they first met on SG1 and his crush on her.
Good job to everyone there and thanks for bringing us such a great show.
Are there more casting changes on the horizon, assuming the show does get picked up for a fifth season? So far, the replacement ratio IS at 50%, as has been metioned here before: Ford gone in Season 2, Beckett gone in Season 3, and Weir gone in Season 4. Since all of the changes seem to be moving away from the original SGA dynamic and closer to an SG1 dynamic, presumably to attract the SG1 fans who didn't care all that much for SGA, where does this leave the fans who really liked the original version of SGA and didn't particularly care for SG1?
Wondering which replacement is on for Season 5: bringing in Jackson or Vala and getting rid of Teyla, or bringing in Mitchell and getting rid of Sheppard? Because the only original SGA character that doesn't seem expendable at this point is McKay.
I think it's a mistake to write off the negative responses to cast changes as a factor in lower ratings, just because some of those responses have been fairly hyper.
There may be other people who are equally unhappy, who have either just drifted away from the show, or don't want to watch it live any more. It's a lot easier to tolerate some of the changes with the aid of the fastforward button. A simple and effective solution but one that is not going to help the ratings.
I've heard Marty G. reference your advice during almost all of his DVD commentaries. Would you say that as his long-time boss (of sorts) you are also like a big brother or mentor to him in the production office?
Here's an interesting quote from Damian Kindler, when he was writing for Stargate SG-1 during S7, in answer to a fan's request to see Sam and Jack have a "happy ending together":
I would tell all the shippers to read Gabriel Garcia Marquez’s ‘Love in the Time of Cholera’, about two people that are in love from the moment they meet as children, but don’t get together til they’re 90. It’s like Scully and Mulder, the moment they kiss, the show has lost its mystique. I would never do that. Not only is it not fair to the show, but it’s not fair to the characters. The characters carry this wonderful tension within them, because the moment you actually start to act on these feelings, the wonderful kind of caring relationship that we’ve been working on is destroyed. You need that balance. And it’s a terrible ecstasy and tension. But I would tell the shippers, just enjoy it! What would you do if it was over?
The link for the interview: Between the Real and the Fantastic
Is this how you feel about Sam and Jack, or any other 'ships, too?
Thanks. :)
I KNEW you were going to post food pictures tonight!
We're headed down to our local 1950's style diner Bubba's for dinner tonight. They have delicious everything. The milkshakes and pies are especially notable. =D
Hi Joe,
I still have my flack jacket on and judging by some of the posts I will need it for the foreseeable future.
Looking at the pictures of your meal did you have Fish and Chips? Don’t think much of the portions mate, and were the heck are the mushy peas.
I have been trying to avoid the posts with spoilers in but the brain still registers some of the words like ‘Weir’ and ‘packing up belongings’ so I will put my hands over my eyes and skip those ones. Had a read through of my play the other day then we went around the room asking the other writers and some of the actors to say one good thing and one not so good thing (apparently saying a bad thing is too negative!).
Yeah to the good things, it flowed said one person it’s hilarious said another.
Back round again and the same people said, it doesn’t flow, it needs more humour!
Is that how your sessions go or are you lot a bit kinder to each other.
Pauline
Oh congratulations to Martin Gero!
Hope to see his movie soon! Notice he had Callum Blue from of dead like me cast in the movie, I always tought he was funny as Mason.
My husband and I just watch a Dog's Breakfast, hubby loves british comedy and found the movie very similar to Fawlty Towers sence of humor, we really enjoyed the movie, David was great and Paul dress as a woman was both funny AND disturbing.
We'll eagerly wait for Martin's movie to come out hope our downtown gateway theater play's it, they show mostly indie films so hopefully.
Dinner looks great, you must get funny looks from other people on the restaurant while shooting it.
lol.
Stargate was awesome last night, sad to see Weir go, can't wait to see how you guys work that story arc.
Checked itunes too, good news! they didn't screw you guys again, this time the episode WAS the episode I payed for.
Well hope you are enjoying your weekend.
Question:
What's your opinion of Indian food?
Do you actually cook at all or does fondy caters to your demandig pallet?
anonymous said: "(...)Since all of the changes seem to be moving away from the original SGA dynamic and closer to an SG1 dynamic, presumably to attract the SG1 fans who didn't care all that much for SGA, where does this leave the fans who really liked the original version of SGA and didn't particularly care for SG1?
(...)"
This is your opinion and I respect it. However, I disagree.
I never cared for SG-1. I love Atlantis since Rising. I fell in love with the first episode and I've been a huge fan since then.
I love all the seasons so far. Sure, there's the occasional weak episode here and there, but overall every single season has been great so far.
I feel the show has been getting better and better with each season. I loved season 1 and I liked Ford, but I like Ronon more and I'm quite happy with that change. I think season 2 is better than season 1, and season 3 is better than season 2. With each season the SGA dynamic has gotten better and better. In my opinion, of course. It's too early to say whether season 4 will or won't be better than season 3, but so far I love it.
I loved Carson and Elizabeth and I'm still sorry to see them go, but I think Dr. Keller has been great so far and want to know more about her. I think Carter's introduction has been OK so far and it seems she'll fit nicely within the SGA dynamics. At least from what we could see so far.
So there you have it. This Atlantis fan is very happy about how the show has evolved since its first episode until now and hasn't been disappointed so far. And I haven't felt Atlantis has turned into anything like SG-1, and I'm glad it's keeping its own identity.
I'm looking forward to checking out Martin's movie, but how will I ever tell anyone about it? I'll never be able to say the title in public!
Thanks for the (p)review of Martin Gero's film. I'll definitely be keeping an eye out for it, maybe even recommend it to the film festivals here.
I see what you mean about wondering if your judgment (about YPF) could have been clouded by your friendship. Do you ever find it hard to give criticism to friends? If so, how do you overcome that?
Hi Joe -
I don't post regularly, but I read your blog religiously at work (I have a VERY boring job!)
Just felt the need to chime in and say how very very much I've enjoyed season 4 of Atlantis so far. I download from iTunes, so I'm useless to you as far as ratings go, but from an artistic point of view, I just wanted to congratulate you.
The acting is better than ever, the stories really engaging so far - I'm very worried that re-programming the Replicators will come back to bite them in the arse, and I can't wait to see how it plays out.
I will really miss Elizabeth. I loved the exit you devised for her, though I wish she needn't have gone, and hope she will be back in season 5.
SciFi would have to be insane not to bring this show back for a 5th season. It is quite wonderful and clearly beloved by many.
The best of British (Columbian) luck to you! : )
hey joe just popping by(splint and all) to let you know that you will be losing my viewership number from last nights episode as my danged DVR apparently 'forgot' to record SGA. I was away for the evening and left it unattended and it apparently went on vacation. I am considering drop kicking it off the roof now as you do NOT mess with my recordings.
QOTD- How do you feel about Feta(cheese)?
awesome first two episode! I'm enjoying them. Everything was actually perfect and I give you congrats. But..one question. ever since a "certain episode" leaked...I've read some spoilers.&& from what I understand a certain "SHIP" seems to get pushed forward. Meaning.. I've been hearing that 'SHEYLA' is getting the push. So my question is ..WHY. Out of all of them why them. Personally I'm not really into all that crap. I just watch for the space ships lol. But my gf has been bugging the crap out of me. So I want to know. WHY them. Personally, if I see anything I want to see Teyla/Ronon getting closer. I just don't see it with Teyla/Sheppard. & from what I understand they were meant to go on from the beginning. Now, I know you always say...WE HAVE NO SHIP. But come one Joe. lol. I just want to know..WHY you picked the two of them to be the love interest. && why not settle for the other pairing?
thanks for your time!
Salut Joseph=DD
Ouii!!! La france a battu la Nouvelle Zeland hier soir!!! C'est éxéptionnel=)
Waou Merci pour toute ces photo!! Ce repas a du être délicieux^^!
Merci aussi pour la video!Martin est super drôle^^!
je suis impatiente de savoir les audience de l'apisode 04x02! jespert qu'il sera bon=)
Rohhh bah en france ont ne saient toujour pas quand sera diffuser la saison 3 =(
Mes questions:
1)conbient d'email recevez vous par jour?
2)Il ne vous arrive pas de parler francais dans la vie de tout les jours? a Quel moment?
3)Si il n'y a pas de saison 5, quesque vous allez faire?
Voila, Merci beaucoup! gros bisou! je vous aime trés fort<3! a demain =)
Hi Joe a while ago you said
Jen, the cow hugger writes: “Since Carter will be heading Atlantis, does this mean she was promoted to Colonel?”
Answer: She will be a Full Bird Colonel for both the movies and Atlantis‘s fourth season.
Will we see Sam's promotion on-screen? Will Jack attend the promotion?
"I think it's a mistake to write off the negative responses to cast changes as a factor in lower ratings, just because some of those responses have been fairly hyper.
There may be other people who are equally unhappy, who have either just drifted away from the show, or don't want to watch it live any more. It's a lot easier to tolerate some of the changes with the aid of the fastforward button. A simple and effective solution but one that is not going to help the ratings."
Well said, fellow anonymous! There are so many people who just can't see the point of complaining, because they know their concerns will either A, fall on deaf ears, or B, lead to JM ridiculing them on his blog.
There are a LOT of people who are unhappy with the changes, and they are not just the people who inhabit the anti season four thread. I have friends who've never ventured into online fandom, who are horrified that Beckett and Weir are gone, and that Carter is in.
Have you considered, JM, that as soon as you replaced Torri Higginson with Amanda Tapping in the opening credits, the cat was out of the bag for the 'casual' viewers who you seem to think don't care?
I was a casual viewers of SG1 when I watched it many seasons ago, and believe me, I did care. It wasn't until I ventured onto GW that I found other people HATED the Sam/Pete storyline, and had issues with the changes made to Carter at the time.
To assume that casual viewers don't care is ignorant. They do. They just don't know where to go to complain, or don't have internet access at home.
Promogirl, it was a nice scene with Teyla and Ronon, however I think it was a little premature. How many times have people gone missing only to have the entire team trying to search for them, not packing up their office/room? It says a lot about the intentions of TPTB, and not so much about the story of the characters.
Loved Lifeline.
succinct enough?
Martin Gero is incredibly talented. Please let us know when you hear anything about a more widespread release.
Actually, is there a website? I'm kinda reluctant to Google the title myself for fear of scary sites that might get me arrested in the future. :)
hello Joe
si il y a une saison 5 (et j'espère vraiment qu'il y en aura une!), avez vous des idées pour le centième épisode?
I often read what you're write in your blog and what are you're answers, they made me laugh a lot when i understand them
thanks!
Joe, out of curiosity, would you read comics if they were mailed to you c/o Bridge during the hiatus, or would they not get to you? I write and have published a few, and would be curious what a pro like yourself would think of my work.
Responding to another commenter's comment about shipping on these shows: it depends on the kind of writers working on it and the team dynamics on the show as well. Hooking up characters like Sam and Jack wouldn't work because it draws focus from the rest of the team and the overall vibe of the show. Mulder and Scully couldn't just stop chasing aliens to make out. Neither show's platform really works for highlighting that kinda thing without diminishing other aspects.
1)Will any of the crew make any bad decisions this year?
2)Do some of the episode titles carry multiple meanings?
Did you know that Netflix has Stargate Atlantis Season Five listed on their website? With this disclaimer: Release date is unknown; availability is not guaranteed. Still I thought it was optimistic of them to list it.
Joe Flanigan is so adorable in this interview(see link below). He has so much charisma(yep, that's what he has)that I would follow him anywhere. Well, maybe not. My family might miss me. :)
http://video.scifi.com/player/?id=163053#videoid=164108
Joe,
I can't believe you gave away Zelenka and McKay! (The goldfish) You were supposed to get them to talk to each other...according to David Nykl's blog. ;~) Does he know you gave them away? And why does he say he thanked YOU for all the fish?
Kimberly ;~P
Have Rachel or Jane had their babies yet? My good wishes and prayers for safe deliveries and healthy babies go out to them!
Kimberly
Do you read the episode threads on gateworld? I was wondering if you looked at any of the comments regarding what people thought of Lifeline?
Not counting the comments about Dr. Weir, I noticed quite a few people were complaining about McKay in this episode. There were also quite a few complaints about the banter between Shep and McKay, Teyla being wallpapered again and Dr. Lee being dumbed down.
Could you please comment on some of the concerns expressed by fans that are not anti? I've noticed that quite a few fans are very down on McKay and the banter between Shep and McKay. Could you please touch on this?
Was the hug between Weir and Sheppard scripted?
I don't know if you already answered this and specific details aren't necessary, but...
(like Stargate SG-1 with Jack/Sam) Are you going to/planning to develop any definite romantic relationships or are you going to let fans debate it?
Thanks
anonymous quoting Damian Kindler said:The characters carry this wonderful tension within them
Huh. Tension. I thought it was indigestion.
Oh God, the impossibility of scrolling through comments without seeing spoilers...
Congrats on wrapping; now go get some much needed rest! Hoping you'll be seeing a green light soon though...
I didn't know that YPF was finished, that was fast! Any idea when we can expect it to hit DVD? I hope it gets Martin Gero some of the recognition he deserves :)
What is the last dish you have pictured? I'm curious...
I've been reading a collection of sci-fi and fantasy short stories lately (Dark Alchemy, I highly recommend!) and I found myself distinctly unimpressed with Neil Gaiman's tale... given that I haven't read any of his other books to date, I hate to judge... just wondering whether you have read any of his work and whether you are a fan?
Mary
I finally got to see "Lifeline," although on a pretty crummy VHS recording. Very nice episode!
Hi Joe, Excuse me for sounding lame, but didn't Jacob Carter die near the end of season 8?? And as he was reliant on a 2000 symbiote for living, that would make his 'resurection' practically impossible, Yes??
Thanks also for the pics especially the Tahitian vanilla crème brulee, it sounds lovely. I could do with a pick-me-up like that after Sunday afternoon. I made the mistake of watching Rising with people who are studying science at uni :S Never again!!! Although they did agree with me that the special effects of Atlantis rising out of the water were great.
Fingers crossed for season 5.
Being one of the people who have already seen Doppleganger, I have to say it was a good episode. Here's my concern though and perhaps we're too soon in the season for it to matter but I keep hearing that Carter was added to shake things up a bit however her role in this episode could have EASILY been filled by Elizabeth without changing the tone of the episode at all. So far I'm not getting the reasoning behind her removal but I'm trying to keep an open mind.
Hopefully you'll bring her back for Season 5 (fingers crossed that there is one) because there are so many avenues I see that you can take her character now with the nanite issue and because she was one of the most interesting characters on the show. The loss of her character really effects the show. I realize that is only my opinion and there are different ones on this issue but as a loyal fan from the beginning I hope it counts just a little.
On another note, the biggest negative about adding Sam...the continued Sam/Jack are they/are they not questions. I was hoping to leave that with SG1 and while I like them together, the discussion ad noseum is boring although I know you have noting to do with that. This is SGA not SG1.
I think an7c pretty much summed up everthing I ever wanted to say about the show. Well, that was easy!
Very pleased to hear that Martin Gero's film has turned out so well - he's written some of my favourite SGA episodes so I'm glad that he's had the opporunity to strut his stuff elsewhere as well.
Anon said: To assume that casual viewers don't care is ignorant. They do. They just don't know where to go to complain, or don't have internet access at home.
If someone is looking up the address of their congressman to make a complaint I'm going to assume we have a different definition of what a casual viewer is. When it comes to television I suspect most people sit down, watch, maybe have a brief discussion around the watercooler, and leave it at that because it's entertainment not a Way of Life. But then again I haven't done the research groups, surveys and readings on this area like the other anons obviously have.
Does the network hold things like research groups and then use this to nudge the writers, or do they actually allow you to tell the stories that you want to tell?
Joe,
What if we want to send a "Wooohooo Stargate's Ratings are an all time high" giftbasket? will it still get to you before expiration date at Bridge Studios?
Majorsal said..."when the show's ratings start sliding, *that's* when they decide to pull out all the stops and try to bring the popular couple together."
I couldn't agree more. So Joe, when are you going to bring that popular couple together? Will it be when Daniel does a guest spot in season 5 or will we get a taste of it in the movies? If you do decide to go that route, I really hope we get a nice bedroom scene. Maybe by season 7 or 8 we could have a few little rugrats running around. A little Sam and a little Daniel would be soooo cute. Not only would they be gorgeous kids (just look at Sam and Daniel) but think how smart they would be.
OMG! You don't have to look any further for the third series....
"Stargate-The Next Generation"
I LOVE the idea of shipping Sam and Daniel. Let us know if you decide to do this in order to increase ratings. I agree that it's really important to have the most POPULAR couple get together. Sam and Daniel all the way!!!
Elizabeth said...
"Please answer these two questions. 1) How much time is supposed to have elapsed between Unending and Adrift? 2) Is Jacob Carter going to be on Atlantis or in the movies [Continuum, Ark of Truth]?"
hi, elizabeth,
i think when joe unscreens a question (that's been repeatedly asked) but 'doesn't' answer it, it means he's not going to answer it.
i'm rather curious about that first question too, though. at the end of 'unending', sam's hair is still short. we know that in 'arc of truth', her hair is long. it's also long in atlantis, which is supposed to come 'after' the two movies. so either enough time has passed that sam could grow her hair out, or, she's got hair extensions (like amanda used to have before her hair actually grew that she didn't need them anymore).
my question, joe, is is it going to be brought up (in 'arc of truth' or atlantis) about her longer hair?
on the second question, elizabeth, i doubt joe would answer because it might be a spoiler. if he hasn't answered by now, i think the chances are he won't answer.
sally :)
Kdvb1 said...
And why does he say he thanked YOU for all the fish?
I think that wording on David Nykl's blog is a subtle reference to Douglas Adams.. as in "So long and thanks for all the fish" (as in, he was saying goodbye!) :D
I just wanted you to know that season 4 thus far has rocked! Each episode was filled with lots of great action, drama and suspense. Whats been even better is that the cast has been given something more 'meaty' to show us those acting chops.
Its tough in Sci-fi to balance the action and character drive stuff, but in "Lifeline' was the first time I really felt connected to Elizabeth and her sacrifice was touching.
I also thought that some of Joe Flan's best acting came through everything from his mannerisms to expressions and it just goes to show if you keep delivering this type of great drama your cast will keep hitting things out of the ball park.
Thank you
Would the possible strike by the Writer's Guild of America effect you personally? Would it effect season 5 if you get the green light for it?
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